This is basically a good suggestion, but I'm not sure putting it in the Notes client is a good idea. There are several applications available to make it possible to print any kind of document to a PDF with full fidelity, both free and paid-for. Adding that functionality to the Notes client could only serve to make an already heavy client even heavier, without really adding relevant functionality.

/Peter

It's definately a pain, but then there are those times when you need to debug a multi-database application...

If your formula gets complex enough to require a Formula Library, then maybe you should use LS or Java instead?

/Peter

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/Peter

This is the downside of having a mail client that isn't dedicated to being a mail client. The best way to solve this would probably be to have better options to define which types of documents should maintain unread marks.

I haven't actually seen this setting in Outlook, but it sounds like a good idea.

I didn't say that you couldn't trust an internal spam rules database. I said that an internal spam rules database that's being fed by your users can't be trusted. Normal users can't make the distinction between spam and real mail.

Kenneth: My opinion exactly! Thanks for expressing it!

What you call "nasty ones" is users adding sh*t to the spam database, which makes legitimate mail bounce.

IMO, users can't be trusted to make this kind of decision. You will end up with an unusable spam database.

I agree completely, but can also conclude that this will never happen. IBM has already "modernized" Notes with xPages, and there's no interest in doing anything about the Notes client interface in any other way.

Can you give an example of this?

On my Android phone, with Traveler, I just tap on a phone number in the body field of a mail, and it brings up the phone app with that number. Doesn't this work for you?

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The twistie is a navigation element. It would be extremely confusing for users, if a navigation element like this, would look different for different categories. It's already possible to choose an image of your own as the twistie image.

File and Print sharing is the job of the operating system. No matter which operating system your Domino server runs on, it will have some kind of File and Print sharing functionality, so to have it in Domino is completely superfluous.

Maybe the possibility to report as spam both ideas and comments?

Sean, I agree with the support part of this idea, but not the limitations. The licensing would need to not be based on registered users, though. If IBM is to develop a new Admin interface to this server, it'll never get done.

Is this an idea, or is it a question?

I really think you should split this idea into 6 different ones.

@Giulio: The only way I can see this working is if there is a preference, and the default is off. Most developers I know work on a shared server that is far away from them. Some of them have to do their work on slow lines, like connected via VPN to the customer's network. Your 0.5 seconds to load into cache, could be more like 2 - 3 minutes. We can't all do our development locally, or on a development server standing next to us.

OK, so with a hundred forms in your database, where 20 have more than 100 fields each, and almost all of them uses at least 1 subform, with at least 10 fields per subform, how long do you want to wait before the type-ahead box pops up?

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of "without risk". It wasn't that long ago, that we had a security warning about the internal Notes attachment viewer being susceptible to malware. The workaround was to disable it for several file types.

From time to time, I do use the Notes internal file viewer, when I find a file that I don't have an installed program to view. It's very convenient to use Notes for that too. Using the file viewer as multi-purpose file viewers, directly from the OS, is not ideal for me. There are several 3rd party file viewers out there, most of them probably better suited to the task.

@Mark, It's not hard to do. All you really need is a Mail-In-Database document in the Domino Directory, and preferrably a view for incoming mail, and an agent to process the mail. You could even create a separate database/application to use as a black hole. One agent to delete all incoming mail, if you're not interested in checking them.

This is easy stuff, nothing to it. You difinately don't need me for it... :-)

@Mark, If your aplication is sending mail with invalid addresses, it should also have a valid return address. The return address should be in an application that could properly handle the return. It's a bug in your application, not a fault in the infrastructure.

Is this a suggestion, or merely a reflection? Are you reporting a bug, ar just commenting on functionality of the web browser?

I haven't seen dead mail in the mail.box since I upgraded to version 6, and implemented the incoming mail checks, so I think this is a non-issue. As David suggests, there's also a functional solution for this already, so I'm demoting this.

@4: I'm sorry, but if the user can't be trusted to handle a local replica, and you don't want any administrator intervention, then you're probably out of options.

There are already at least 2 ways to do this. Using the old way of Cascading Domino Directories, or the new way with Directory Assistance.

Using policies, you can have a directory (database) replicated to the user's client, so the user doesn't have to know anything about it.

There's no point to Message Recall, and I objected to it being introduced in Domino. Prevent Copying, is a lot older, from when Notes was the only viable client, I believe. I would object to it as a new feature if it was introduced today.

Regarding removing features from Notes and Domino, I don't see the point, unless there's some really pressing need to remove them, and that goes for any feature, including your suggested one.

Since this would be a Notes-only solution, there's really no point to it, and as Alan and David noted, there are workarounds for this problem.

To create a substitution rule:
Open upp the Internet Site document.
Click on "Web Site..." and choose "Create Rule"
Enter a description for the rule.
Change the type of rule to Substitution.
Enter the incoming URL pattern: /favicon.ico
Enter the replacement pattern: /yourname.ico
Save the document, and reload the HTTP configuration on the server.

@Niel: The favicon.ico file is part of the Domino install. It isn't data. I never assumed that I could replace it with my own favicon.ico without risk of having it be overwritten by the Domino install, so I never faced this problem. Do you feel the same about the system ntf's? If you changed the design of the Domino Directory template, do you think the Domino install shouldn't replace it as well?

If you want to use your own favicon.ico files, either give them other names, or put them in a subdirectory instead. That's one reason the substitution rule exists.

Name the favicon file yourname.ico, and create a substitution rule, and the problem is solved. That way, you can have a separate icon for each site if you have more than one. You also don't have to worry about a new Domino install overwriting your icon.

For each job, there's an appropriate tool. Designer is not the appropriate tool for this job. It could possibly do to launch an image editor from Designer, but MSPaint isn't an image editor, so that's out of the question.

No, I don't want an "are you sure" prompt either, as that could be a big problem for possible batch runs.

"deletes it via the ESC key"? I assume you mean the Del key. I wholeheartedly agree.

I completely agree with @1 here. Although the AppendItemValue method is illogical at best, it is still used, and needs to remain unchanged.

What would be better is to keep the current Program form, but disallow the creation of new documents from it. I'd propose to create a new Task form to replace it. With the Task document, you could specify any kind of task you want, including "route", "tell", "show" and "load".

Considering the ACL permissions often used in an .ntf, it's potentially very dangerous to allow web access to it. The normal way is to develop an application using an .nsf, which, when it's ready, is copied over to an .ntf. I fail to see the problem with this handling.

I have a hard time deciding if I want to promote or demote this idea, because I do believe that it should be simpler to create new applications on the server, but it still can't be user/developer controlled.

The server admin needs to have the last word in anything that goes on the server, and provided that a solution for this would make sure that it's possible to lock it down, I will promote this idea.

As a user, you should not be able to put a new application on the server, without the server admin approving it.

As a developer, you should not be able to put a new application on a production server, without the server admin approving it. You should probably be able to put a new application on a development server, though.

OpenNTF is a great source of applications for Domino, but that doesn't mean that any user should be able to put any application on a server. There would be total chaos following if that was allowed.

No, if it was, then my steps 3 and 4 would be irrelevant. Step 5 would be Domino telling you that, instead of the Windows technician. Step 6 would still be the same, just one day earlier.

Another problem would be that the recycle bin wouldn't be exclusive for Domino. It'd also used by the operating system. You, being the Domino admin, would most likely not be allowed to control it. The Windows technician responsible for the server would make sure of that.

Scenario 2:

1. Database is deleted
2. Business user panics. Admin tries to get hold of the Windows technician that would be able to undo the delete.
3. The Windows technician is as usual too busy to be able to get to the restore immediately, because we all know how stable Windows is, so he has lots to do, so he gets back to the Domino admin the next day (best case scenario).
4. The Windows technician asks the Domino admin for the exact filename and location, and when it was deleted, because he has found no less than 23 files with that name, deleted on different dates, originating in different directories.
5. The Windows technician gets back to the Domino admin to tell him that he's sorry, but there's no such file. It was probably too big to be stored in the recycle bin.
6. The Domino admin goes to the backup engineer to have him restore the file from backup.

Please note: All mentioned technicians could as well have been female. The words "he" and "him" should be read as "he or she" and "him or her".

What this also mean is that you will make more work for admins, by making them delete things twice. First through the Domino server, and then through the Windows recycle bin. Also keep in mind that many Domino admins aren't admins of the server, which means that another person will have to go in and empty the recycle bin.

The undo possibility is great for the ordinary user interfaces, but it gets in the way when doing admin stuff.

Accidents will happen, but that's what backups are for. If someone keeps deleting databases "by accident" then maybe they shouldn't be Manager of databases, or administrators of Domino servers?

OK, so Notes will need to know about all area codes, and ways of writing a phone number from all around the world, and all international prefix's. That's a database in itself, and it could be greater in size than the Notes client install.

@4: What standard should be used to present a phone number? Does it always have to be in an international form? Maybe there's strictly national companies that doesn't want the international prefix? So the database will have to include information on how each country writes a phone number. As I said before, Sweden has area codes varying from 2 to 4 digits, and phone numbers varying from 5 to 8 digits.

I'm tempted to change my promote to a demote, due to the impossibility of it, but I'll let it stand as it is for now.

I think it's a perfect fit for IdeaJam, so we can vote on the "correct" pronounciation of the word. It's not a question, it's an opinion.

I'll go with Art Thomas, and propose Un-I.D.

I have used Design Synopsis once or twice over the years, so I agree with Peter, that the right-click menu should be used for items I'm more likely to need as well.

I may want to rename a function so I can test a temporary function with the same name, which wouldn't work with this functionality.

The risk for so many unforeseen effects could be the result of this idea. Search/Replace usually works for me.

Not to be negative, but I'm not sure it would work. For the US, it would certainly work, as it is a very standardized phone number system across the country. For Sweden, it's not very standardized.

Sweden has area codes with 2 to 4 digits, and phone numbers with 5 to 8 digits. That's just one example, there are countless others. Nevertheless, I've promoted this idea.

Thanks Matt, it seems to work now!

Thanks Jan for suggesting this, and thanks Bruce for reacting on it so swiftly! It's been bugging me for a long time! :-)

Personally, I'd rather see the admin and designer clients for linux. They are basically the only thing keeping me on Windows...

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And the same goes for POP3, of course.

On the other hand, it is possible to work around this. In the above example: 3 hidden, sorted, numerical columns, and one unsorted text column.

I believe it would be very good to have a comment on a demotion, and this would make it easier to remember commenting. It would be really bad, though, if it would be required to comment, to be able to demote an idea.

You might want to move this to the Notes Client idea space.

@BrowserInfo can never be kept up-to-date with new browsers, so I think it is time to remove support for it instead.

There's a difference between the certificate used in Notes/Domino, and the certificate used by a web server. You would have to set up SSL for the Domino web server, and then request the web page as https, and it would work.

The application used to open an attachment is the application registered for the file extension in the OS. If Open Office is registered in the OS to open .doc files, then Open Office is what will be used to open .doc files from Notes. You want to duplicate the Windows function "Open with..." in Notes.

There's a bit of a difference between a BB device and a PC or Mac. There are several 3rd party tools that handle software on client computers, without having to use Notes/Domino to handle "just" Notes.

This sounds like something that your voicemail software should have, not something a Domino server should be able to do.

I got the LotusUserGroup update newsletter on monday october 6, and it always has a Guru tips section. The tip from this newsletter was:

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GURU TIPS -

The following tip is provided by by Julian Robichaux of SNAPPS. Julian is the creator of nsftools.com, the author of Guru Guidance in Clippings (the newsletter for CLPs and CLIs), and a frequent presenter at key conferences in the Lotus space.


Tip: Default File Attachments to Open

Tired of always choosing whether to "Open" or "View" a file attachment in e-mail? The Lotus Notes 8.0.1 client has a new setting that lets you always "Open" an attachment when you double-click it, without getting the Open/View prompt. Just add this to your Notes.ini file:

AttachmentActionDefault=1

And restart your Notes client.


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I haven't tried this tip yet, but it looks promising...

You currently have two options for "foldering":

On the workspace, you can use different tabs to place your icons on. The user can name the tabs.

In the Bookmarks bar, you can create your own folder structure to keep your bookmarks in.

/Peter

I totally agree, the Paste special functionality exists, but takes so much time. Unfortunately, it's kind of a standard to not have a shortcut to it, so it probably won't happen...

Lotus Notes and Domino is such a great product, because it can easily be enhanced in so many ways. There are several 3rd party products out there, that already implement other ways to register users. There are no secrets to how it is done, so you are also free to create your own application to do it.

There is also the option to import the users from the text file you already have, and register them. Then you can run a fairly simple agent to go through the text file, and add the forwarding address to the person documents. It doesn't have to be a big problem.

On the other hand, I don't want to demote this idea, since it would benefit us all to have a better function for user registration. I'll go with the "No opinion" option.

I still think this would be a completely useless change, and I maintain my demotion. We already have full control over what gets sent to the browser.

As Jeff said, if you print a content-type before printing anything else in the agent, Domino will not assume anything about your output, but will only send what you print to the browser.

The & Chr(13) is not neccessary.

This is already how Domino Administrator works, at least from version 6.5. In Administrator, open File/Preferences/Administration Preferences. The options for startup of Administrator are "Don't connect to any server", "Connect to last used server", and "Connect to specific server".

/Peter

It sounds more like you need to work on your internal routines instead. Managing application users should be automated, and access groups should have meaningful names.

In my opinion, this is a bad idea. Standard behavior for Ctrl-A is to select everything. To also use it to unselect everything would be confusing to users. What if you select everything in a view that has auto refresh on it. Suddenly you could have more documents in the view. What should Ctrl-A do then? Unselect everything, or select everything. I demote this idea.

I can's see this as a viable solution. It leaves SPAM-detection up to the user, and that is not a task suitable for a user. It also makes more work for the Admin, to go through and classify all the mail classed as SPAM by the user.

If you're going to measure the time between message open and message delete, you will be getting lots of false positives.

This could give the wrong signal to an Admin, since you can be gone for quite some time due to illness, maternity leave, temporary assignments and so on. Imagine the problems you would create if you just deleted that poor user's mail file, with all the important saved mail in it.

What if the mail file owner has delegated access? Someone would read and act on any incoming mail, but the owner might not touch the mail file.

It would be better to check for mail files w/o an owner/persondoc, and delete those instead. You could also use the information in userlicenses to see which users _might_ be safe to delete.

It is definately stupid, and the reason I'm not running ST at all...

I agree with Paul and Matt. What we really need is something completely different.