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Notes Client: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:27:57 +0000

Author: Tripp Black
Tags: F9 F5 Refresh Logout Settings
Idea: As MS did not adopt F9 for refresh from Notes (Notes was first - see the history on Notes.net), it ticks off users to click F5 and accidently logoff when in the middle of something. A great feature would be to have a desktop settings field that update/set a new user preference to swap the two keystrokes in the Notes Client. As IBM Lotus is very backward compatible, the default would be to not swap (stay the same) and let companies turn on the feature individually in user preferences or via policy with the Desktop Settings. It would also save a lot of griping to hear from those new users to Lotus Notes that don't yet realize the capabilities of Lotus Notes and haven't broke the apron springs to that MS Outlook client yet.

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:24:34 +0000

Author: Mika Heinonen
Comment:

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:27:12 +0000

Author: Henry Ferlauto
Comment: It should be a option, but manageable through policy.

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:28:22 +0000

Author: Joseph Hoetzl
Comment: Ever tried F5 or F9 in MS Office ? (F5 = Goto, F9 Refresh (!!) Fields)
Further...F9's use as the refresh key in PC applications pre-dates Microsoft's choice of F5. It dates from the early 1980s, when Lotus 1-2-3 was the most popular PC application.
Here is to standards!

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:54:55 +0000

Author: Ragnar Schierholz
Comment: Exactly, there is no standard behavior for this in MS apps. Explorer uses F5 to refresh, Excel uses F9 to recalculate cells/formulas, Word uses F9 to recalculate the currently active field (Ctrl-F9 for all fields), etc.

I'd say: Stick to the way it is now!

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:10:28 +0000

Author: Bill Malchisky
Comment: FYI...in the Notes 8 client, the F5 key is disabled. To log-off, you press Ctrl+F5 now; F9 still functions as expected.

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:26:13 +0000

Author: Tripp Black
Comment: #5, yep! it's there!
however, like #2, i still think it would be better something pushed down by policy.
as #3, and #4, point out the standard f5 is "intuitive" simply because of Windows folder refreshing and IE. Sad that MS cannot even stick there own "standards".

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:13:13 +0000

Author: Brian Cooney
Comment: Even though the majority of comments are Windows related, the Mac crew would agree as well. F9 in the Mac OS is used to show applications at the Finder level. It is a a pain to have to go to the View-->refresh (which even has the nerve to have the F9 shortcut listed beside it). :)

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:10:15 +0000

Author: Leo L'Homme
Comment: I think swapping would be a better option for those forced to use Windows workstations...

It would especially lower the number of complaints from the people that are being moved off out outlook in our organization by force..... lol

And although I see in the 8.5 beta 2 you can now right click and mark a document read/unread.... it would kind of be more than nice if you could stick that in 7.0.4.... and if it's not there in 8.0.3... another big complaint from users....

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:15:55 +0000

Author: Brian Sherwood
Comment: To confuse even more.

What has happened to that 'not a lot of people know this' function of Shift + F9. It is in Notes 8.0x but not 8.5.
Put a formula in any field, such as

1250*7.5

Hit Shift F9
The answer appears.

Not any more.

re: Swap F5 and F9 Keys

Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:30:47 +0000

Author: Christopher Boote
Comment: It's back in 8.5.3 8-)