store NSF in more relational databases, not only DB2 
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: Josep Alemany Fruitos1212 27 Nov 2007
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From the 7.xx version of Domino we can store our databases in Domino or in the relational database Db2. Why we don't open this to other relational databases to be more competitive and install our Notes products everywhere??? Oracle, Informix, SQL Server, MySQL...
In this way, we can install in all type of customers.

1) Matt White13605 (27 Nov 2007)
It's a nice idea but unfortunately from the little I know if NSFDB2 it's never going to happen. My understanding is that changes were made to DB2 to support Domino requirements and that's obviously not going to be possible for non-IBM RDBMS's.
2) Richard Doone824 (27 Nov 2007)
A lot of the marketing push from IBM for most of their product lines (not just lotus) involves the claim to "Open Standards". Forcing people to use DB2 and not offering, say Oracle or SQL, as alternatives seems to contradict this statement. Lots of companies (for right or wrong) have a chosen database platform, and introducing DB2 is difficult in those environments.
3) Axel Janssen6869 (27 Nov 2007)
What about supporting atleast Derby (ex-Cloudscape). IBM bought it. Its openSource on Apache. But IBMers are the main commiters and control the project.
Derby is much simpler to install and administer than DB2 on developer, test and production systems.
4) Roberto Boccadoro106 (27 Nov 2007)
@2 - This has nothing to do with "Open Standards", sorry. Neither DB2 nor Oracle are "standards" and there is no such thing as a "standard" RDBMS. Having said that, there are several obvious reasons why we limit this to DB2.
I would never want to see NSFOracle, can you imagine what a mess would be to try to be in sync with another company's product ? And what if they change something in a subsequent release that breaks the NSFDB functionality ? The only way we can make this work is only by using our own stuff, we can make changes to Domino and to DB2 without depending on 3rd parties.
If you want to use Oracle or whatever, then you can easily move the data from the underlying DB2 to another RDBMS.
5) Nick Radov1404 (27 Jan 2008)
I can't see how this could ever be made to work reliably. Testing and support would be impossible.
6) Patrick Kwinten21314 (24 Sep 2009)
moving to a more 'known' database format then nsf would position Notes/Domino as a mature enterprise development platform...


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