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We might need a 'report user' option... 
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For instance, Mr. Blah is quite negative(!), and has not posted any ideas or comments....



1) Bruce Elgort7941 (21 Nov 2007)
Agreed. It's now on the project list.
2) Giuseppe Grasso470 (21 Nov 2007)
I'm sure Mr. Blah will Demote this too
3) Mika Heinonen3556 (21 Nov 2007)
How about if Demotes would require a comment? Promotes are usually trivial and need no explanation like "Yes", "I agree", etc...
4) Dan Sickles1710 (21 Nov 2007)
I agree with Mika. How do you feel when someone tells you that your application is bad, sucks, doesn't work etc. and offers no specifics? A demote without a comment has negative value. It's all noise, no signal. A value with specific comments has positive value, more value than any single promote.
5) Dan Sickles1710 (21 Nov 2007)
oops....A Demote with specific comments has positive value, more value than any single promote.
6) Slawek Rogulski8789 (21 Nov 2007)
I like the idea of explaining a negative vote.
7) Mika Heinonen3556 (21 Nov 2007)
@5 - Exactly, constructive criticism is the best a developer can get. He assumes his product is working fine, so positive comments are nice to hear, but they don't make the product better in any way.
8) Ben Langhinrichs6949 (22 Nov 2007)
The problem is, you can't enforce constructive criticism. Put in a requirement to comment when voting "No", and you'll see more "I disagree" comments. We need to trust people, and enforcing a comment on negative votes just gives the message that no justification is needed for voting for ideas, while justification is needed for voting against them. The cost of voting "No" is therefor slightly higher, which actually reduces the value of the results. Imagine if everybody just voted "Yes" on each idea. The site would fade away very quickly. A requirement to comment on negative votes would not kill the site, but it would encourage the idea of no cost for voting "Yes". If anything, I'd prefer a limited number of "Yes" votes to match the realities that we have to make choices about how time is expended, not fall into the trap of thinking that all changes are cost-free.
9) Grant Lindsay686 (22 Nov 2007)
I don't believe that requiring a reason for the "No" is too costly, especially since there is a "No Opinion" option. As I've gone through some ideas, there have been relatively few that I felt were a real "No" (and, I believe I explained my choice in those cases.) If I didn't have a strong "Yes" or "No" feeling, I would pick "No Opinion."

I agree, however, that the required comment could just be gibberish, unhelpful, or even abusive.
10) Matt White9250 (22 Nov 2007)
I agree with @8, we've chatted about this issue before and came to the opinion that forcing people to leave a comment will not actually add any benefit. In the end I think demotes with an opinion will probably carry more weight with the idea proposer and the rest of the community.
11) Brian Miller474 (27 Nov 2007)
I'm all for going right past "report user" and coding a banhammer that erases all of a user's votes. Take that! :)
12) Simon O'Doherty196 (11 Nov 2009)
Is this implemented? Can't see. It would be useful to get rid of spammers (is no where safe? o_O)

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