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Are the Promote and Demote actions clear? 
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: Bruce Elgort7930 02 Nov 2007
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An Idea Jam user dropped me a note letting me know that how to Promote and Demote an idea wasn't very clear. What are your thoughts on this? Should we change the metaphor to a set of graphics? Are Promote/Demote the wrong choice of words? Please weigh in.



1) Jerry Carter798 (02 Nov 2007)
Hm. Click promote... and it goes up one. Seems clear to me, but I'm an english speaking person. Maybe instead of promote and demote, a green arrow up and red arrow down?
2) Charles Robinson5451 (02 Nov 2007)
Computerworld uses a thumbs up and a thumbs down. Like Jerry I don't have a problem with it now, but something graphic would stand out more.
3) Bruce Elgort7930 (02 Nov 2007)
Charles,

The question becomes where to place them. Let me play with some designs and run them by everybody.

Thank you guys....
4) Henry Ferlauto3837 (02 Nov 2007)
I think promote / demote works.

You could also have a ton of other antonym pairs:
Yes / No
Agree / Disagree
Yea / Nea
Up / Down
Awesome / Sucks
etc.

I do agree with another idea posting that there could also be up down arrows in addition to or in lieu of promote / demote.

If the decision were made to use both, the box itself would have to grow in size, which I am generally in favor of for a variety of reasons.
5) Phil Randolph1715 (02 Nov 2007)
I'm with Henry...in at least one case...I think perhaps up/down arrows would help along with the words (and still not take up to much more room).
6) Charles Robinson5451 (02 Nov 2007)
Take a look at the comments here to see how ComputerWorld does it: { Link }

That's pretty clean and simple. What about an up arrow and a down arrow with opacity so you can show the total number behind? Just show the number until someone mouses over, then show an up arrow that's green and a down arrow that's red.
7) Tim Tripcony860 (02 Nov 2007)
If you add the same icons you use in the voting details section, the text could be next to (or partially overlap) the icon.

This probably belongs in its own idea, but I'd like to see GMail-style keyboard shortcuts; i.e., P promotes, D demotes, I creates a new idea... unless you're already focused in a field like this one.
8) Cristian D'Aloisio1216 (02 Nov 2007)
Instead of Promote/Demote small links, I would use 2 simple icons:
Thumb Up
Thumb Down

Simple and effective, since Colisseum arena in ancient Rome ! ;-)


In my opinion, Promote/Demote links are small and not so clear for many Italian people...
9) Joseph Hoetzl4678 (03 Nov 2007)
I "got it" right away, but maybe a little view icon 96/97? or 105/102
10) Bill Malchisky8219 (16 Nov 2007)
I like the concept of Promote/Demote. Quite nice and clear. I dislike overtly simplified prose. :) Now, we have many in the community that are multi-lingual and I can see some confusion there. Appending a thumbs up/down to the existing nomenclature might work well for everyone. But as always, ymmv.










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